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group vs meeting business meeting

European Group of Gaming Addicts (EGGA) business agendas, notes, topics, and discussions
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Scott
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group vs meeting business meeting

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I don't think we ever came up with a clear boundary between what is decided at the monthly EGGA business meeting and what can be decided at a mini-business-meeting for a particular meeting. The general idea was that most decisions are made by the entire group conscience but that specific format decisions that affect only one meeting would be decided by the regular attendees of that meeting at a mini-business meeting.

Examples of specific format decisions for a meeting:
  • Speaker, beginner, step, literature, or general topic meeting
  • Open to observers or closed (for problem gamers only)
  • Having longer or shorter time limits than what EGGA decided
  • How to choose topics
  • Including a permanent reading every week
Examples of decisions that affect the whole group:
  • Anything in the EGGA format
  • Zoom or Mumble issues
  • The time slot of meetings
  • EGGA delegates, meeting leaders, and other service positions
Examples where it's not clear:
  • On one hand, changing the location (Zoom, Mumble, Jitsi, etc) of one of seven daily meetings affects the whole group and would be decided by the whole group. On the other hand, the whole group may decide to let each meeting's attendees decide their own location.
The EGGA business meeting is held monthly on a regular day and time. A mini business meeting is typically held just before or just after the recovery meeting.

Do we want to formally vote this in?
Scott
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Re: group vs meeting business meeting

Post by Scott »

Proposal: That we formally approve in writing the form of group conscience decision making that EGGA has been using since 2014.

Most decisions are made by the entire group conscience but specific format decisions that affect only one meeting can be decided by its regular attendees at a mini-business meeting. The EGGA business meeting is held monthly on a regular day and time. A mini business meeting is typically held just before or just after the recovery meeting.

Examples of specific format decisions that a particular meeting's attendees can make:
  • Type of meeting: speaker, beginner, step, literature, or general topic
  • Open to observers or closed (for problem gamers only)
  • Having longer or shorter time limits than what EGGA decided
  • Including a permanent reading every week
Decisions that affect the whole that are decided at the EGGA business meeting:
  • Anything in the standard EGGA format
  • Platform (Zoom) issues
  • The time slot of meetings (although a single meeting can be extended)
  • EGGA delegates, meeting leaders, and other service positions
Scott
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:53 pm

Re: group vs meeting business meeting

Post by Scott »

We just had a business meeting on this. It sounded to me like people supported letting individual meetings hold mini-business meetings to decide readings and a few other things. But when it came to a vote, suddenly several people voted nay. No one had proposed any changes to the proposal. They just flat out voted down the way the group conscience has run these meetings since 2014, with no alternate proposal or modifications.

Not sure how to interpret that. People voting nay might have thought that they were voting one of several things:

1. In favor of each of the seven meetings becoming an autonomous group with their own business meeting, in effect disbanding EGGA. (A few people sounded like they support this, although none specifically said "disband EGGA".)
2. Against giving limited autonomy to the individual meetings. (No one said this.)
3. For modifying the proposal before approving it. (No one said this.)
4. For keeping the status quo stated in the proposal, but not formalizing it. (No one said this.)

So I am truly confused. After spending time putting this in writing so that people understand how the meetings have been running and then discussing it for 45 minutes, I really feel like it was all a waste of time.
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